Showing posts with label david pinto. Show all posts
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Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Pinto Likes the Yankees

On his Baseball Musings website, David Pinto has his AL East preview up and offers this take on the Yankees:



The Yankees return Posada, Matsui and Cano with value wins under 1.0. Brett Gardner is unlikely to improve much on Melky Cabrera’s 0.1 WAR. Yet the Yankees look like they are going to blow the division out of the water.

Their position players rank third in the AL East, but the 26.6 level is likely an underestimate of their offensive and defensive core. Full seasons from Posada and Matsui boost their 0.8 value wins, and if Cano just reverts to his mean, the Yankees will add three wins there. Those three are likely to make up for any downside on the part of Jeter, Damon and Nady.

Be on the lookout for a Nancy Kerrigan like recovery for Alex Rodriguez. Back in 1994, skater Kerrigan was whacked in the knee by the boyfriend of her rival skater, Tonya Harding. Kerrigan was force to rehabilitate her knee to get ready for the Olympics, and the therapy made her stronger, leading to the best performance of her life. A-Rod is going through that kind of training right now, possibly increasing his strength beyond what a normal spring training would bring. I could imagine him coming back and posting six months worth of number in five. (Of course, he’ll complain about Jeter’s makeup and everyone will hate him again.)

The Yankees real strength comes on the mound. CC Sabathia takes over as the ace of the rotation with consecutive seasons of 7+ value wins. A.J. Burnett’s 5.7 WAR in 2008 was better than both Beckett and Lester. Wang produced the lowest WAR of these five starters in 2008, and he still managed a 2.0 in half a season. Joba Chamberlain still has upside. Their impressive 23.1 WAR may very well be a conservative estimate! Add to that Rivera’s 3.1 value wins, and the core of their pitching staff is over seven wins better than any other team in the AL East. Without any help from the bench, New York is looking at a season with their wins in the high 90s. That’s the floor, not the ceiling.

The Yankees are going to be tough to beat unless everything goes wrong for them.






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That is quite the favorable analysis, unlike, say, Sports Illustrated, which likes the Mets to win it all.

What's more, this type of preview, however, illustrates just how high the expectations are for the Yankees. You can't sign Sabathia and Burnett and Teixeira and not have high expectations; but with high expectations also comes greater disappointment when they are not met.

It brings back my favorite line from Calvin and Hobbes: "I find my life a lot easier the lower I keep everyone's expectations"

Thursday, January 22, 2009

PBP Exclusive: Interview With David Pinto

David Pinto is the author of Baseball Musings and a columnist for The Sporting News. Having both written for Baseball Prospectus and been a lead researcher for ESPN's Baseball Tonight , Pinto is one of the most well-respected baseball names in the game. Recently, he graciously granted my request for a (short) interview, where we talked stats, SABRmetrics and fencing.

PBP: Say I’m a 13 year-old kid. I love baseball, playing it, watching, whatever, and now I’m about to start playing fantasy baseball. I want to buy a guide which will give both the best information, and make it the most accessible to someone that’s still not taken algebra. What should I look for in a guide?


David Pinto (DP): There's a big difference between playing fantasy baseball and evaluating real players. At this point, rather than buying a guide, I'd buy a subscription to Baseball Prospectus [because] BP does the math for you and tends to put things in terms of runs and wins, which is what you want to know. They will also hold chats in which you can ask about players. Sites like Sporting News also do near daily fantasy columns during the regular season, so it might be worth subscribing to those.

In general, the best players should also be the best fantasy players. Sometimes you get someone like Alfonso Soriano who is better in fantasy than real life, but those are rare. Also, different providers have different rules, so it's tough to find a one-size fits all publication.

PBP: Many serious statisticians or baseball people pay more attention to park-adjusted statistics than they do the “regular” stats. When, if ever, do you think the MSM will tend towards the park-adjusted stats?

DP ESPN already publishes park adjustments on their web site, and you can't get much more main stream than ESPN. Park adjustments come up when you are comparing players, for example, Jake Peavy vs. Roy Oswalt. Jake pitches in an easier park than than Roy, so you need to give Roy a boost. I'm not sure that the MSM needs to be more intense than that...I wouldn't want to see park adjust OBA popping up when guy comes to bat.

PBP: You don't want to see people using [park-adjusted stats] too much, then?

DP: Not in a broadcast. I'd like to see it in award stories and Hall of Fame stories, and of course, when broadcaster talk about comparing two players.


PBP: What batting statistic is the most overrated, and why? What about underrated?

DP: I still think OBA is underrated, but it's made great strides. People still tend to look at batting average first, and that's due to years of drilling it into people's heads that it's the most important stat. Most parks and broadcasts now do post OBA, however.

RBI is the most overrated in my opinion. RBI are due both to the ability of the batter and the ability of teammates to set him up.

PBP: OBA... I'm gonna have to [sheepishly admit that I need to] look that one up. It's wOBA without the weight adjustment, I'd take it...

DP: OBA is On-base Average, often written OBP today. It's (hits+walks+hit-by-pitch)/(at bats+walks+hit by pitch+sacrifice flies)


[As for overrated,] people attribute RBI just to hitters, which should not be the case.

PBP: There I go, confusing simple things again! So, to continue, what about pitching stats? Which would you feel are the most underrated and overrated?

DP: Wins are the most overrated, for the same reason as RBI.
It's a team effort to get a win.

Underrated is tougher. People appreciate strikeouts and walks, and even home runs allowed. It may very well be something that isn't really a stat, but the efficiency of a pitcher.

Greg Maddux had such a great career because he didn't waste pitches. That allowed him to stay in games. So pitches per inning is something we should track.
good point.

PBP: Do you think someone will figure out how to turn it into a stat?

It almost doesn't seem stat-y enough for the stat heads, but it makes a lot of sense. And I say stat heads with love and kindness in my heart.

DP: Kindness accepted.


PBP: All right, next question and maybe the most important one...

Say someone on the street comes up to you and asks you to explain Sabrmetrics and what it has to do with fencing. How do you respond?

DP: I would respond it's the organization and mining of data that helps describe the sport.

So in fencing, what would be the thrust/hit ratio? How well does someone retreat? How well does someone block?

PBP: That's an awesome analogy! I think I'll need to use that from now on.

DP: Maybe I should start a fencing stats clearing house. Part of what made companies like STATS, Inc. successful is they started collecting data no one else did. I bet they're not collecting enough fencing info.

PBP: I'd love to see them do it for a sport like hockey, but I don't think anyone does it to the extent they do it in baseball. Anyway, last question--do you think in time we’ll start to see American high school players and use Sabrmetrics to the extent that they're used in the MLB? Do they use them already? Do you think it would be too much pressure on a kid?

DP: Oh yes...With computer programs available for PDAs that track all this information, it should be fairly easy at this point to track the kind of hit data we have now.

PBP: Do you think it would be too much pressure on a 15, 16 year old kid?

DP: No, they just want to play. It will also make it easier for scouts to find the best players, so I would think the good ones would welcome the chance to have their skills better analyzed.

PBP: Interesting take! Clearly you didn't go to my high school...win or else...

DP: In my opinion, more information is always better.

PBP: Which would explain your chosen career path....





Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Money for Arbitration, but not for Free Agents

I was talking to David Pinto last night (stay tuned for an interview with him at the end of the week!) and he posed a question that I am not sure anyone else has considered just yet:

Why is it that there is (seemingly) no money for the remaining free agents , but arbitration numbers are way, way up ?

I can't presume to offer a straight answer. I don't know nearly enough about the business of arbitration or what teams need or, most importantly, the state of teams' finances to do more than speculate.

However, given that the Hot Stove League is its own sport, speculate we will.

There are two reasons that immediately came to mind last night when the question was posed to me:

1) the caliber and positions played of arbitration-eligible players versus the caliber and positions played of remaining free agents

2) the fact that arbitration-eligible players are still under team control while free agents are not, thus making it a game of leverage.


To look at the first reason--

One has to remember that the top free agents--CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett and Mark Teixiera--all did sign, and sign for large, long-term deals as well. The fact that they all signed for the same team might throw you, but they did, in fact, sign. They played positions that the Yankees needed to fill, are young enough to be able to sign the long-term deals, and with the exception of Burnett, are historically healthy.

If you look at some of the remaining free agents, however, you see names like Ben Sheets, Manny Ramirez, Ken Griffey Jr. and Braden Looper (there are lots of others; these are just the first four that come to mind).

With each of these, there's a decent reason for not signing them--Sheets, though good, is never healthy, Ramirez is up there in age and likely looking for more than a one or two year deal, Griffey hasn't been truly healthy since he left Seattle and Looper is just not that good (as I've learned the hard way).

In all or at least most these cases (and again, the list above is not extensive by any means), the players are (likely) looking for deals at a minimum of three years, and for many teams, the risk is simply not worth the signing.


If we look at players who have submitted arbitration figures , however, we see players like Ryan Howard, Dan Uggla, Jason Werth, Ryan Ludwick, Justin Verlander and John Maine. Again, this is not an extensive list, just a sampling.

However, some of the things you notice is that the players on the list are that 1) the players are mostly young, and 2) they are mostly healthy. Heading to arbitration means that the length of the players' contracts are not really up for question; in the case of the best players, teams will often sign them to an extension to avoid arbitration altogether. Many of the players listed would have become free agents at the end of this season or next, so while there may very well be questions about how good a player is, teams aren't risking long-term harm by having to sign them to a long term deal.

Arbitration itself is a somewhat arbitrary process (I know, I know); by its very nature players that accept it, especially those on the downswing of their career, will likely get more money than through free agency alone. Had Bobby Abreu, for example, accepted arbitration, he'd likely be looking at a salary of $16-$18 million.


Free Agency, and this goes into reason number two listed above, is by its very nature much more dependent on the market and market conditions.

As with any basic market, there are two main factors in play: supply and demand, and risk.

For a team to sign a player that's a free agent, the player must satisfy a demand of the team and not possess a risk greater than the possible outcome.

Mark Teixiera satisfied the Yankees' need for a first baseman, and he doesn't, health-wise or age-wise, possess an obvious risk that he won't be able to play most of his eight-year contract.

In one instance where there seems to be an overwhelming supply available, one can look at the available free agent catchers, who include Pudge Rodriguez, Jason Varitek and Brad Ausmus. In that group alone, you've got former all-stars--though the 'former' is perhaps more relevant than the 'all-star'. Teams want catchers that, even if they can't hit like Mike Piazza or Jorge Posada, will at least not be an automatic out. Yankees fans should be wary enough of this--for all the great defense Jose Molina provided, a line up combination last year of Cano, Molina and Cabrera was a recipe for a 1-2-3 inning.


So, the question--why are arbitration numbers way, way up and free agent numbers down--we can speculate has a three-part answer:

1) Numbers for the biggest free agent signings were not, in fact, down;

2) the corps of players accepting arbitration this year, as a whole, tend to be younger and healthier than the remaining free agents, and since most will become free agents in a year or two don't present the time-commitment risks a big free agent signing would, and,

3) the free agent market operates in an open market system (or something that closely resembles it), while arbitration is much more artificial. In a down market, like our current recession, all open markets will suffer, but arbitration can offer players some protection, even if it is artificial.